On June 13, 2023 I was invited to give a talk at JATS-Con about XML first and XML last workflows with InDesign that come with several limitations. Technologies for automated typesetting promise to be faster and better suited for maintaining XML quality. For this purpose, the advantages and disadvantages of XSL-FO, PrintCSS and LaTeX were discussed in this talk. The full paper was published in the JATS-Con Proceedings and my slides can be read below.